Protesters sprayed as Hugh Orde advocates extreme tactics
Three days after head of ACPO, Hugh Orde, promised the use of more extreme tactics on protesters, ten people have been cs/pepper sprayed at a London UKUncut protest outside Boots, with three needing hospital treatment.
During the protest on Oxford Street, an activist tried to post a leaflet through a closed door and was arrested for “criminal damage”. People tried to help her and were subsequently sprayed. One of the officers accused of spraying protesters, CW2440, has also been accused of trying to incite violence at UKUncut protests on 15 January 2011.
Speaking to The Guardian on Thursday, Hugh Orde threatened protesters who refused to negotiate with the police, “we must be clear that the people who wish to demonstrate won't engage, communicate or share what they intend to do with us, and so our policing tactics will have to be different ... slightly more extreme."
These tactics are becoming clear - disproportionate violence, illegal arrests, and intimidatory policing. However, people are angry and focussed, and will not be discouraged from expressing dissent. This violence will only make us stronger and more determined.
See you on the streets.



January 30th, 2011 - 17:53
Does anyone have video footage? I got sprayed by this guy today. Contact me on Facebook (Aadam Sparkzz) if you do.
Thanks in advance
January 30th, 2011 - 17:54
Undercover cops during UKuncut demo.
Sadly I couldn’t get any photos but there were at least 4 ( one huge black guy, one turkish looking guy, and two white guys ). Two of them were wearing palestinian scarfs ( one with black pattern, the other red ). They had see-thru ear pieces with microphones hidden under their scarfs – which were very well disguised.
I will call them undercover police because they had obviously dressed to look like protestors.
January 30th, 2011 - 18:00
Use iodine mixed 50% with water and in an aerosol it has the same effect on Plod.
January 30th, 2011 - 18:04
hope all those assaulted by police are doing ok, don’t get disheartened and keep up the pressure! well done to the people at FITwatch for getting the word out too
January 30th, 2011 - 18:09
Here is some photos of the undercovers I found from another site – photos taken on Student demo jan 29th:
http://brokenhelix.co.uk/undercover-police-29012011/
The black guy and the turkish looking guy and the white guy ( with the palestinian scarf ) were their today outside topshop in different clothes
January 30th, 2011 - 18:40
Oh come on Hugh Orde! the only way you could not know what was going on is if you put your fingers in your ears and closed your eyes really tight! Any idiot with computer knew what was happening today, and irrespective of whether or not the met had prior warning the appalling behaviour exhibited towards a group of entirely peaceful protesters was shocking.
As someone on twitter noted, did the police not realise that the protesters were there defending cuts to a publicly funded institution?
Does anyone know if CS/Pepper spray is even legal?
January 30th, 2011 - 18:41
I think those guys you are referring to may work for Arcadia group, corporate spies.
January 30th, 2011 - 20:03
Undercover at Cuts protest in London on 29th:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL762UyF1t4&feature=player_embedded
January 30th, 2011 - 20:14
It’s time to murder these police scum. It’s time to re-enact Blakelock.
January 30th, 2011 - 22:33
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Real-Art-of-Protest/164849516878311?ref=sgm
January 30th, 2011 - 22:37
@B
I saw them speaking to a guy wearing an Axis Security jumper
http://www.axis-security.co.uk/ outside Top Shop
January 30th, 2011 - 22:40
Hi A, here’s a video from Jan 29th showing three of the four plain clothes that you refer to:
http://tinyurl.com/4576g73
January 31st, 2011 - 08:42
The men in the videos linked here may well be private security rather than police. But it is hard to be sure, and in any case the lines between state security (police) and those funded directly through the corporate sector are becoming increasingly blurred. ‘Intelligence’ gathered by corporate cops might equally end up on police intelligence databases. It will be interesting to see if these guys continue to turn up to UKuncut protests indifferent locations.
January 31st, 2011 - 14:25
In medieval times the penalty for anyone who protested against the existing way of things was death.
In 2011 police in Britain still don’t kill peaceful protesters – or at least they don’t do so on purpose. But the old understanding has gone that if protesters weren’t violent themselves (and it is very rare for protesters to intend injury to anybody), the police would not cause personal injury to protesters. Now punishing protest is at the root of policing.
The latest is spraying CS gas into the eyes of demonstrators. But that is on the back of hyper-kettling (mass street arrest in street holding pens, where demonstrators are incarcerated for hours like sardines without food, water, shelter or medical attention) supplemented by random beatings from batons, police shields, kicks and punches.
That politicians and much of the public are silent in the face of this police attack on personal and civil liberties is an outrage that needs addressing.
February 1st, 2011 - 09:11
Nouwak, Fuck off you fascist,
February 1st, 2011 - 09:24
Nouwak, look at the headlines after Silcott was found guilty of killing blakelock,
Blakelocks butcher, face of evil, face of a monster, Machete monster, the Butcher of broadwater farm, Black people have got to stop raping arson mugging and murder or they are going to result in the sort of paramilitary retaliation not know on Mainland britain,
when Bernie grant suggested the Rioters might use Hand grenades next time, the Governmnt replied in that case we’ll send the army in
In 1985 ,the Tories wer very unpopular at the Time ,after the wapping dispute and the Miners strike ,after that incident they went on to win another Landslide and introduced the NHS reforms and the Poll tax
the Police then had an 18 month occupation o the Farm during which time there was a climate of fear as there was upto 4000 police a day there, some armed and took many people to nicks held them for days without solicitors and got confessions out of them, they went to extrodinary lengths to get confessions out of people
And White Britain turned their back on the People of the Farm who felt they were being hard done by
the Daily star also had the disgraceful headline ‘Winston silcott is the sort of monkey that you put in a cage send Back to Africa and throw Bananas at’, they later apologies for it.
February 1st, 2011 - 15:11
“It’s time to murder these police scum. It’s time to re-enact Blakelock.”
What name are you using now Mark? Not Mark Stone obviously.
February 1st, 2011 - 15:15
The Guardian now has video of the attack http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jan/31/video-police-cs-spray-protesters
February 1st, 2011 - 16:44
Footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddqZOI47EII
February 1st, 2011 - 16:57
@ Saul it must be a very old sort of understanding that the police don’t hurt you unless you are being violent. I saw pensioners beaten at the anti BNP Welling demo in 1993 who were doing nothing. I myself was maimed for life by a police officer in 2000, I was not using violence. Many cases of this over the last 2 decades, I am sure that others who were at the miners strikes etc etc will testify that the police at demos have never been all sweetness and light. I saw people sprayed with some sort of gas straight in the face at Kingsnorth, they were not being violent. Some police officers ENJOY hurting protestors especially if they can get away with it.
February 3rd, 2011 - 10:19
@Lynn Sawyer. I mostly agree with you, but I would like to make a couple of points.
1. In matters of police violence, it is important to distinguish between the behaviour of individual police officers and police policy. The police contain a higher proportion of sadists than the general population, and these men and women will take every opportunity to hurt and humiliate. Though the degree of control by superiors may vary from event to event and from time to time, violence of this kind remains fairly constant.
2. The “understanding” of non-violent protest requiring police not to injure protesters has indeed often been honoured in the breach, particularly in the 1970s and early 1980s. Yet, I believe that Kingsnorth, and more so the G20 demonstrations, revealed a police policy to use violence against public protest as a means of punishing and deterring it. That in my view is a qualitative change.
February 11th, 2011 - 20:37
The scenes in Cairo today (Friday 11/2) put the whole thing in perspective. The Egyptians have democracy: no kettling, no misuse of anti-terrorism laws, very few beatings by police (who have got the message that peaceful protest is lawful), a benevolent military presence etc. This could not happen in Britain, despite the redundant claim that UK is the Mother of democracy. Cameron/Clegg please note and do something about it!
February 15th, 2011 - 14:34
http://www.facebook.com/Filthbook