Do you not think that after Smash EDO smashed up a Brighton business, that the FIT teams are (even slightly) justified in gathering Intel on members of EDO?
This case does not prove that edo are war criminals. What it proves is that those on trial had an honestly held belief that they were preventing war crimes and the judge took that as mitigation.
Also it’s best not to reference wikipedia as a source as it’s reliability is dubious at best due to it’s editability.
Children know not to blow bubbles in peoples faces,,, shame. Takes away from the things i agree with,,, i don’t agree with antagonizing, or generalizing from both sides.
dear scum bags, hope your website is going well! its ironic when you get burgaled/mugged etc etc etc who do you call? the police. I’m sure your brain cells are the size of a green pea. enjoy your life…. oh yeah i would rather donate money to saddam hussain’s grave than your so called FIT WATCH!!!
@ john and roadkillchicken. EDO ARE selling missile release and guidance systems to the israelis. i was at the court case and have seen evidence of this. these are the people that need to be stopped. The people that smashed up edo only damaged property, EDO are supporting a fascist and violent regime which flouts all international law
Really sad to watch this video. It was a very eloquent case against what Fit does, but unfortunately there is a profound misunderstanding of what FIT teams are doing and why they’re doing it.
It is a well known fact that protests (of all types, not just ‘political’ as was called out in the video) attract people who are not necessarily involved in the cause of the protest, but for reasons best known to themselves simply like protesting and agitation. These people are the minority who sadly are aiming to hijack very good causes for their own gratification, and include the so-called anarchist Black Bloc, and similar….
FIT teams are tasked to gather information and intelligence on these people. To do so effectively they have to take a reasonably ‘blanket’ approach, because it is often unclear how people involve themselves in trouble until later on in an event and when CCTV, news, etc. is reviewed. They have no interest whatsoever in legitimate protesters, only those involved in or planning civil disorder. Police in UK operate broadly on basis of public consent. The vast majority of people at yesterday’s J30 march were pleased to have their protest facilitated. The people who got ‘kettled’ and arrested were anarchists who were determined to disrupt the day, had armed themselves with eggs to throw at police, and had called fairly publicly for a “day of rage” with direct action planned.
I know it sounds crass, but why can’t everyone get along?! Police aren’t a political tool, and aren’t trying to subvert people’s right to protest. They’re just trying to combat disorder and those few people who want to use events as a way to have some fun at the expense of the broader peaceful majority. CCTV isn’t about control, nobody is having their movements actually recorded or monitored unless there is reasonably suspicion they may be about to commit, or have commited an offence. Let’s get some perspective people!
You are simply wrong about only people intent on criminal activity being kettled and arrested. Your comments suggest that you have not attended many political protests your self and take your views from media.
November 24th, 2010 - 09:44
Do you not think that after Smash EDO smashed up a Brighton business, that the FIT teams are (even slightly) justified in gathering Intel on members of EDO?
November 25th, 2010 - 12:57
Yes. Because EDO employees are real war criminals! Proven in court even!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDO_Decomissioners_Case
December 15th, 2010 - 06:37
This case does not prove that edo are war criminals. What it proves is that those on trial had an honestly held belief that they were preventing war crimes and the judge took that as mitigation.
Also it’s best not to reference wikipedia as a source as it’s reliability is dubious at best due to it’s editability.
December 28th, 2010 - 23:04
Children know not to blow bubbles in peoples faces,,, shame. Takes away from the things i agree with,,, i don’t agree with antagonizing, or generalizing from both sides.
January 22nd, 2011 - 10:32
Fit goes against the notion of innocent until proven guilty and constitutes harassment
February 1st, 2011 - 13:51
Police are not fit to shovel shit, time to break them up and start again.
February 17th, 2011 - 08:31
Biased much !!!
February 17th, 2011 - 08:53
there is only 1 video of british police – isn’t fitwatch.org.UK ?
March 12th, 2011 - 22:33
dear scum bags, hope your website is going well! its ironic when you get burgaled/mugged etc etc etc who do you call? the police. I’m sure your brain cells are the size of a green pea. enjoy your life…. oh yeah i would rather donate money to saddam hussain’s grave than your so called FIT WATCH!!!
May 31st, 2011 - 15:37
the CBI recommends the police need to outsource more. coming soon: Group 4 investigate murder crimes.
July 1st, 2011 - 12:20
@ john and roadkillchicken. EDO ARE selling missile release and guidance systems to the israelis. i was at the court case and have seen evidence of this. these are the people that need to be stopped. The people that smashed up edo only damaged property, EDO are supporting a fascist and violent regime which flouts all international law
July 1st, 2011 - 13:30
Really sad to watch this video. It was a very eloquent case against what Fit does, but unfortunately there is a profound misunderstanding of what FIT teams are doing and why they’re doing it.
It is a well known fact that protests (of all types, not just ‘political’ as was called out in the video) attract people who are not necessarily involved in the cause of the protest, but for reasons best known to themselves simply like protesting and agitation. These people are the minority who sadly are aiming to hijack very good causes for their own gratification, and include the so-called anarchist Black Bloc, and similar….
FIT teams are tasked to gather information and intelligence on these people. To do so effectively they have to take a reasonably ‘blanket’ approach, because it is often unclear how people involve themselves in trouble until later on in an event and when CCTV, news, etc. is reviewed. They have no interest whatsoever in legitimate protesters, only those involved in or planning civil disorder. Police in UK operate broadly on basis of public consent. The vast majority of people at yesterday’s J30 march were pleased to have their protest facilitated. The people who got ‘kettled’ and arrested were anarchists who were determined to disrupt the day, had armed themselves with eggs to throw at police, and had called fairly publicly for a “day of rage” with direct action planned.
I know it sounds crass, but why can’t everyone get along?! Police aren’t a political tool, and aren’t trying to subvert people’s right to protest. They’re just trying to combat disorder and those few people who want to use events as a way to have some fun at the expense of the broader peaceful majority. CCTV isn’t about control, nobody is having their movements actually recorded or monitored unless there is reasonably suspicion they may be about to commit, or have commited an offence. Let’s get some perspective people!
November 12th, 2011 - 14:02
@Peter
You are simply wrong about only people intent on criminal activity being kettled and arrested. Your comments suggest that you have not attended many political protests your self and take your views from media.
November 27th, 2011 - 17:46
Take a peep at my blog it is about the Met and non-lethal weapons